If you are gold, you will glitter sooner or later. (2025)

Silver

Senior Member

Chongqing

Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect

  • Aug 20, 2013
  • #1

Hi,

There is a Chinese saying meaning exactly the same as "If you are gold, you will glitter sooner or later", and I know there is an proverb "All that glitters is not gold". So I am wondering if this makes sense to you? I asked my language adviser who is an American, she told me it didn't make sense at all and she can't think of any similar expressions in English. The meaning if the expression is "If you're really talented, be patient and keep working hard, your ability will be appreciated sooner or later".

Thanks a lot

  • owlman5

    Senior Member

    Colorado

    English-US

    • Aug 20, 2013
    • #2

    Hello, Silver.

    The English version of that Chinese proverb makes some sense to me, but I had to think about it. I didn't find its meaning immediately obvious. I suspect that many listeners would find it odd or even meaningless, as your language adviser did.

    Chasint

    Senior Member

    English - England

    • Aug 20, 2013
    • #3

    A similar English expression is:

    The cream always rises to the top. or Cream will rise to the top

    M

    MirandaEscobedo

    Senior Member

    London UK

    British English

    • Aug 20, 2013
    • #4

    The Chinese expression certainly could not be regarded as the equivalent of the English one. The Chinese one is emphasizing that gold will ultimately shine through. The English one is saying that what shines superficially is not necessarily gold. Even though you could find some 'logical' meeting point between the two, what would be the point, since their meanings go in opposite directions? PS: on the English expression, see Shakespeare "All that glist

    er

    s is not gold" in The Merchant of Venice.

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    Parla

    Member Emeritus

    New York City

    English - US

    • Aug 20, 2013
    • #5

    Biffo's (post #3) has cited an applicable saying, but the expression is a bit outdated, since milk is now generally homogenized. Most younger people are unfamiliar with a container of milk with a layer of cream at the top and would not understand this metaphor.

    Chasint

    Senior Member

    English - England

    • Aug 20, 2013
    • #7

    Parla said:

    Biffo's (post #3) has cited an applicable saying, but the expression is a bit outdated, since milk is now generally homogenized. Most younger people are unfamiliar with a container of milk with a layer of cream at the top and would not understand this metaphor.

    Cream also rises to the top of a cup of coffee Parla. If you are gold, you will glitter sooner or later. (6)

    Here's a song by The Roots (released in 2011)

    They hollering cash rules everything
    Let's call it cream
    Cause when it rises to the top
    you get the finer things
    Ocean fronts, rolling blunts with model chick

    "Make My" [feat. Big K.R.I.T.]:
    http://www.urbanlyrics.com/lyrics/roots/makemy.html

    _____________________________________________________________
    EDIT A quick Google search for cream rise top 2013 reveals many current uses of the phrase, especially in journalism and sports terminology.
    A search for cream rise top lyrics shows quite a number of recent songs that include the saying.

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    Silver

    Senior Member

    Chongqing

    Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #8

    Biffo said:

    A similar English expression is:

    The cream always rises to the top. or Cream will rise to the top

    Thanks a lot. I think this expression almost means the same as the mine, but I wonder its popularity. How many people understand it? Since I haven't found it in some English dictionaries.

    Chasint

    Senior Member

    English - England

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #9

    Silverobama said:

    Thanks a lot. I think this expression almost means the same as the mine, but I wonder its popularity. How many people understand it? Since I haven't found it in some English dictionaries.

    I believe that most English-speakers know it, more than know a lot of our phrases. Try searching Google for cream rise top, you'll find plenty of examples.

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    exgerman

    Senior Member

    NYC

    US English

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #10

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    Parla

    Member Emeritus

    New York City

    English - US

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #11

    Cream also rises to the top of a cup of coffee Parla.

    Not that I've observed.

    And the original expression specifically referred to the pre-hemogenization days when milk was sold in glass bottles and the cream was clearly seen to be at the top.

    ewie

    Senior Member

    Manchester

    English English

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #13

    peter199083 said:

    Out here is a verb, isn't it?

    If you are gold, you will glitter sooner or later. (11)If you are gold, you will glitter sooner or later. (12)

    I recognize Cream will always rise to the top.
    It means specifically "One day people will recognize that you're superior to the rest of the group", i.e. you are the cream.

    peter199083

    Senior Member

    Shanghai, China

    Mandarin

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #14

    I was reminded of another idiom 'cream of the crop'. Could you please enlighten me of its association with 'cream will always rise to the top'? In both cases cream would come atop leaving other rivalry, be it the milk or the crop.

    Chasint

    Senior Member

    English - England

    • Aug 21, 2013
    • #15

    Parla said:

    Not that I've observed.
    And the original expression specifically referred to the pre-hemogenization days when milk was sold in glass bottles and the cream was clearly seen to be at the top.

    A brief discursion

    You've missed out then! Maybe I'll send you a recipe! If you are gold, you will glitter sooner or later. (15)

    I'm a little concerned about getting off-topic here but the expression dates way back before that. Before bottles, milk was poured into customers' jugs but anyone who has worked on a dairy farm will tell you that cream rises to the top of the churn. I'm sure the separation of milk and cream was known about from the very first domestication of cattle, some 8,000-10,000 years ago, if not before.

    Back on topic

    The important point for this thread is not the origin of the saying or how well people understand it. The point is that it is still in use. As I have shown, it appears in rap music - it's used as a metaphor for having money. But, in any case, how up-to-date would you like to be? Here's an article published online today. Surely that proves the saying is alive and well?

    E-Books: The Cream is Rising to the Top
    Wednesday, August 21, 2013
    http://www.readmedeadly.com/2013/08/e-books-cream-is-rising-to-top.html

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